In this episode of the Anatomy of Leadership podcast, Chris Comeaux sits down with Cathy Iocona, Executive Coach, about the dreaded drama triangle and the empowerment dynamic.
They discuss the roles of victim, persecutor, and rescuer in the drama triangle and how these roles can disempower individuals and create conflict. They also explore the shift to the empowerment dynamic, where individuals take on the roles of creator, challenger, and coach.
Cathy shares examples of how leaders have used this framework to improve employee engagement and accountability. The conversation highlights the importance of shifting focus from problems to outcomes and taking small steps towards achieving those outcomes, and how fear underlies all three roles in the Drama Triangle and how these roles can be driven by a fear of not being capable, fear of change, fear of not being liked, and fear of not being needed.
They also discuss the importance of self-awareness and emotional intelligence in shifting from the Drama Triangle to the Empowerment Dynamic. They conclude by emphasizing the importance of curiosity, self-compassion, and compassionate curiosity in navigating conflict and judgment.
Podcast Transcript
Our Guest
Cathy Iocona
Executive Coach
Biography
The Empowerment Dynamic
Our Host
Chris Comeaux
MLAS, CPA
President / CEO of Teleios Collaborative Network
and Teleios Consulting Group
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